<> I've known some Kinists, and they are frightening. Nor do I think they've stopped spreading their 'gospel'-- I think they're just waiting for a better day and teaching their families to do the same. Like evil seeds, they'll sprout again.

From what I've heard about the kinist (bowel)movement, there was sort of an internal breakdown (shocker!).

"Second, if the Confederacy was indeed the feat of enlightened statecraft the Kinists say it was, why did it last for only four years?"

The South really did carry a godly heritage. Slavery was not "common"...it was the primarily the very wealthy that owned slaves...and there were godly Presbyterians that sought to include them in worship on Sundays and held their "owners" responsible for not allowing them Christian education (Stonewall Jackson would be an interesting man for you to google...learning about him caused me to take a second look at the history I had been taught my whole life).

I'm obviously not a kinist, but I do think there's been a lot of revisionist history about the South...not difficult to understand, they did lose the war (and before anyone accuses me of being racist or pro slavery...realize that I'm against man-stealing...which is what American slavery was...and I only see 2 races that exist: the seed of God, and the seed of Satan).

I've known some Kinists, and they are frightening. Nor do I think they've stopped spreading their 'gospel'-- I think they're just waiting for a better day and teaching their families to do the same. Like evil seeds, they'll sprout again.

The idea that any of those people have the brains to actually "plot" anything is laughable. Nevertheless, point taken.

From what I've heard about the kinist (bowel)movement, there was sort of an internal breakdown (shocker!).

Not that I care, but you've piqued my curiosity. What precisely happened?

The South really did carry a godly heritage. Slavery was not "common"...it was the primarily the very wealthy that owned slaves...and there were godly Presbyterians that sought to include them in worship on Sundays and held their "owners" responsible for not allowing them Christian education (Stonewall Jackson would be an interesting man for you to google...learning about him caused me to take a second look at the history I had been taught my whole life).

I've read a little bit about Jackson myself and I don't doubt that he was a Christian. I don't even doubt that Christians existed within the upper echelons of the Confederate ranks. As a whole, however, their society was based on having the "right" to exploit other human beings whose race they felt was inferior to their own. Even though the South's economy was agrarian (compared to the North), and essentially forced to lower production costs as much as humanly possible in order to compete not only with the North but internationally, the use of slaves as a means did not justify that end. Had they chosen to invest in capital equipment, they could have potentially caught up with the North and maybe even surpassed them (never mind that - they could have simply pursued a policy of free trade with the North). Their need for slaves would no longer have been necessary and the Civil War could have been averted. Of course, this is entirely speculative and irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Besides, we'll never know for sure.

Very well put.

"Not that I care, but you've piqued my curiosity. What precisely happened?"

I forget exactly...believe it or not, I rarely think of them ;) Seems like there were just some interpersonal issues...they now have an Eastern Orthodox guy writing for them who defended the pederaste activities of the Greeks...and he is a racist...I know as much because he tried hanging out with me and the Paleocrat when we'd share coffee and pipes...at the time, Paleo was still a Calvinist...and this guy said he thought Paleo was a good guy...but his marriage was some sort of a mongrel marriage seeing that his wife is Asian.

Anyway...there's little sense in talking about Kinists...they're rather boring...and can't exegete themselves through a comic book if their lives depended on it.